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Ok, a few people have asked me if we're going to have a time jump soon, and I have to say I'm inclined to agree that one is needed in the not too distant future. The game's only up to mid-March and it's already the end of April!

So... my proposal is that we do a time jump from game time 16th March (since I know a lot of us - me included - have posts that are prewritten up to the 15th currently) to mid-April, or possibly even to the end of April, to catch ourselves up a bit.

I'm holding out a hope that I'll get to do a collab for the White Hat meeting on 22nd March, but if we get it done in time (subtle hint there, guys... let me know if you're coming to the meeting or not so we can arrange this collab) then I can post it during the 24 hour wait while the time jump happens.

Ditto for anyone else who has anything that they HAVE to post on game days that are jumped - so long as you post them during the pause between mid-March and the April date we pick, that's fine. If you miss the deadline and can't post it until after we've jumped, then the usual "post it as a flashback" rule applies. (Yes, complete with 'current time' end pieces, to place it in a chronological timeframe consistent with the date of the game board at the time.)

Please post comments, suggestions, objections, etc, about this proposed time jump in here... we have a few days before the board catches up to the 15th, since it's on the 13th now. But since most of us have the 14th and 15th prewritten, it won't be THAT long. :wink:

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Meredith Bell's picture

I'm ready for a time jump around the time of the 15th/16th though I think I'd prefer to pick up the action in mid April rather than the end of it (like maybe three/four weeks rather than four/five weeks).

I'm not exactly sure if I could realistically let everything I have going off be 'put on hold' for such a long time, I know we have flashbacks that can relate things that we skipped through but the stuff that I have to cover after the timejump will need to be done in detail.

But apart from that I don't have any major objections.

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Kaarin's picture

Well I don't have many strong objections, aside from I still have a post for the 15th to finish (can we say "Procrastin-X?") but that should be finished within a day or two. Hmm, maybe do something on the 13th as well.

Kris, I haven't forgotton you, but I also have to edit another post as well - should be done in a few days.

I might have about 3 or 4 posts for after the 16th and before the end of the jump to do, maybe more. Fortunately because of some collab changes, they've become a bit more fluid. Tis just a matter of figuring out how to write it. So while I've no major objections, I do recomend a jump only to about week 2 or 3 of April.

We can cover a few months without ending on the exact date, after all. There should be enough fluidity for that. :)

It would also help if someone didn't keep telling us to slow down ;)

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Hola-Meg-a-Cola's picture

I myself have been writing ahead for awhile, and I've been waiting patiently to be able to post each one, so come time for the time jump expect a flood of posts from me.

I also have a few collabs to do, so I say we wait a few days (preoccupied tomorrow and Saturday so that shall be difficult). But other than that I am more than ready :D

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Tyler_Hyatt's picture

As you can see, I'm a bit behind, as I've been busy. I'd like to get another post done, which is best for the fifteenth, but if I don't get it done, don't hold up on my account.

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Allyana's picture

Mmm, Shaun, Matt and I have something planned for the 17th that should go in that actual date, but of course that would require we could 'meet' for the actual collab *grrr*.

I'm writing in full speed to get to that date with all the prerequirements, as you may have noticed, but if we cant get there, i suppose we could still do it in the 'flashback' style, couldnt we guys?:D

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Kaarin's picture

Actually you should still be able to put it up, provided that you just blitz post it. That's what I plan on doing with those posts of mine, if I get them done in time - they can't be done flashback style because that would cheapen them. :)

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Hunter's picture

I kind of protest, since I´ve got something planned that fits best during the end of March and I havn´t really started with it yet. So it could be kind of a problem.

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Disposable_Hero's picture

Uh I have some stuff that needs to go up around the 16th, but won't be able to post them for a while (monday earliest) so don't go time-jumping over the weekend heh.

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Meredith Bell's picture

Since the date on the gameboard for most people seems to be around the 12th/13th, i think it's doubtful that we'd cover the next 3-4 days over the weekend, i don't know how other people are set, i have quite a few posts to make for the 14th - 16th and though most of them are already written I still need a few days to finish things off - i'm guessing NEXT weekend is gonna be a more likely date to make the big jump, this is just like the big flashing green ten in the LABN kitchen to let everyone know that cooking time is almost upon us :D

(that was a Masterchef reference btw if anyone was wondering hehe)

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Heather's picture

Yup, pretty much what I figured Lou. For those who are feeling a tinge of panic... As I stated in the opening post of this thread, the board has to get to 15th/16th before the jump, and since we're still firmly on the 13th it'll be a few days before we're ready.

Chris... if you have stuff for the end of March, provided you can get it all written by the end of this week you should be able to post in it the "time jump hiatus" period. For those of you who are new to this whole time jump concept, this is how it usually works.

We pick a game date that's the official jump-off point. In this case, it looks like 15th March, with maybe a handful of 16th posts chucked in.

Then we jump. It's not instantaneous. There's plenty of warning on the board (this thread most likely) as to the exact real-time date that the jump will start. When it does start, any posts people have that are between the time jump dates (looks like it'll be 15th March to approx mid-April) can put them up. We generally expect no more than a handful of such posts to appear. So try not to write a bunch of stuff in that period - if it can be pushed back to April then please do so.

There will be a pause of roughly 24 to 48 hours where this can happen, then after that time the new game date is set at the post time-jump date (say, 16th April) and posts are then only permitted to have a datestamp in the new 'current' time frame.

Anything not posted by that point that still relates to the skipped time period should have a 16th April (or 17th, 18th, depending on how slow you are) book-end placed around it and be treated as a memory, flashback, dream, whatever.

This thread is a heads-up to expect the jump to happen soon - so if you have any writing that HAS to happen before mid-April, get it done now and be ready to put it on the board when the jump happens.

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MrDave's picture

I have one last post (it does not affect anyone's continuity) for the 12th and then I will need to connect with someone to bring OZ back into the fold...he's going to really suffer during the jump.

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Logan's picture

I've rescheduled my colabs to put up after the time jump, so Matt, if you were talking about our posts, I spoke with Ally, and Jamie, and we agreed it would be better after time jump

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Heather's picture

Well, things are moving along nicely. We're onto the 14th now, and it's only Monday, so I'm thinking that this coming weekend looks like a good one for holding the time jump.

Of course, Dave and I are holding a housewarming party on the Sunday so we'll be kind of busy, and Robin's coming over to visit, and so Adam and John will both be here for the weekend too - but if they REALLY need to access the board we can let them use our laptop... )

So let's see if we can get all these 14th and 15th March (and yes, I know there are a few for the 16th too) posts up and settled by Friday, so we can start again on Monday on the 16th April. That leaves the whole weekend for miscellaneous posts between those two dates (though I say again, try to keep them to a minimum).

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Firefly's picture

that's fine by me... i have two for the 16th (one of which is waiting on the neighborhood procrastinator) and I might have to throw in two posts in the interim between march 16 and april 16, but that's cool

just want to take care of sam and maia before the middle of april...and possibly drew...i'm waffling on that one

ok...well, anyway...it all works for me...thanks...

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Allyana's picture

It works for me too :D

I have all of my posts past our collab ready, Heather, only waiting for that to be posted. I'm also waiting for a collab with Adam (hint, hint) that will be set on the 16th, but i'm sure we'll have it done by the weekend (hint, hint :wink: ).

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Kaarin's picture

The neighborhood procrastinator would like to apologise again, and ask if a copy can be sent to him, since he seems to have lost the file.

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Heather's picture

Alessa wrote:
I have all of my posts past our collab ready, Heather, only waiting for that to be posted. I'm also waiting for a collab with Adam (hint, hint) that will be set on the 16th, but i'm sure we'll have it done by the weekend (hint, hint :wink: ).


Well, I can't make any more posts until Kris posts our collab for the morning of the 15th... but since she can't post it because she's waiting for Adam too... (another subtle hint there, Adam :wink:)

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Evalyn Toussaint's picture

Ah... at least i'm not the one holding peeps up in this game :oops: hehe *hides from flying mutant shoes*

stupid computer viruses

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Kaarin's picture

Natasha Brookes wrote:
Alessa wrote:
I have all of my posts past our collab ready, Heather, only waiting for that to be posted. I'm also waiting for a collab with Adam (hint, hint) that will be set on the 16th, but i'm sure we'll have it done by the weekend (hint, hint :wink: ).


Well, I can't make any more posts until Kris posts our collab for the morning of the 15th... but since she can't post it because she's waiting for Adam too... (another subtle hint there, Adam :wink:)

Um, why would my stuff matter since my collab with Kris is on the 16th?

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Heather's picture

Because I'm an idiot who didn't read Kris' post properly, ok? :P

hehe

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Heather's picture

Well, I've made my last post before the time jump starts. :) I have one post to make during the jump itself, being the White Hat meeting held on the 22nd March (I actually wanted to do that collab for the 15th meeting, but no PCs showed up lol). It's already been collabed, so it's ready to go. I'll most likely put it up early Saturday my time (therefore early arvo GMT).

I'm not sure how many other mid-jump posts are going to be posted. Usually there are none, or very few, and I'm hoping such is the case this time too. Those that ARE posting mid-jump stuff, try to keep everything as chronological as possible - which means anything dated March should go up Saturday (GMT) and anything dated April should go up Sunday (GMT).

If anyone else has 15th or 16th March stuff still to post, try to get it up by Friday evening (GMT) at the latest. Come Saturday morning we'll be in hiatus, preparing to come back on Monday at the game date of 16th April.

Anything up to 16th March not yet written - you've got just over 24 hours to write it and post it.

Good luck. :)

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Kaarin's picture

Heather - you'll have to wait for certain between-jump posts of mine to go up before you do that. One of which is the collab with Kris that isn't up yet for some reason (and I figure she is posting); the other being a solo by me. Probably also another solo, if I can get it done in time, which looks less and less likely.

I'll have my flashdrive with me containing the post in question if that becomes necessary. In fact, I'll put the file on there right now. :)

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Kaarin's picture

Silly me for looking here instead of the gameboard first. :) Give me a min to post, and I'll try to get that last one done - and inform you in person as to whether or not I got it done in time, hehe.

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Allyana's picture

Silly me for thinking the post we were working on was dated on March 16th's morning!

Adam, you dont pay attention! :wink:

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Hola-Meg-a-Cola's picture

*rolls over and dies*

God, this weekend is gonna be hell. I'm going to a sleep over on Friday and won't be returning until Saturday evening, meaning I'll be posting my March shit all that night.

Then, almost my entire Sunday is killed since 1.) I shall be at church and then I'll be going to Staten Island for the entire day and B.) I'm going to be spending all night on a history essay (DAMN YOU STEIGER) so I'll manage to post my April shit somehow....

Wish me luck :?

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Heather's picture

Ok, ok, guys, the time jump has happened so take it easy on those March posts...

I know there've been a handful of March posts cropping up even today (Tuesday), and since the only April post so far is non-storyline that's not so disastrous. But PLEASE, if anyone still has action that happens prior to 16th April, ensure that it is posted with current game date bookends and made into a flashback.

Ta.

(And apologies to Kris, who sent me her two March posts to put up on her behalf if she was unable to do them... My weekend was so crazy that I was lucky to be able to post the 22nd March WH meeting, and I'm afraid I clean forgot about checking to see if I needed to post yours. So I'm not the least bit concerned about those two showing up early Monday.)

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Hola-Meg-a-Cola's picture

Erp :? I have a few April posts to do. Would I still have to put them in flashback?

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CryingKnight's picture

Ok I realise we've only just completed one jump but I was thinking we might schedule in the next so evey one has a chance to work their ploylines out.

I was thinking we jump again on about the 23rd of April game time. ( please note this isn't a reason to squash your entire plot into a week of game time) We're already into May and I imagine that by the time we do hit the next jump we'll be in June. We need to move the time line along if we're going to keep the Finale reasonably well synchronised with the end of the season (We haven't managed it that well previously but hope does spring eternal)

Anyway anybody have any thoughts on the matter?

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Meredith Bell's picture

That would suit me quite well, for the stuff that I have planned a short time jump of around a week or just over (to move things along) would come in quite handy.

Perhaps this intermission period could be used for more 'monster of the week' type stories? Or a quick recap and a short burst of a few good, clear events before we skip on a bit more. (Besides a week or so wouldn't be too difficult to cover in retrospect.)

Though, like Adam's said before, just because the deadline is end of June, doesn't mean the SEASON has to end in June too. Just a thought ;)

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Disposable_Hero's picture

Ehh actually I have quite a bit to go up atm (btw Jaime and Shaun, when are you posting your stuff? You know what stuff I'm talking about.) for which I think I'm going to need more than just a week in game time. Although after the 23rd, at the earliest, another time jump of two weeks or so would be ok.

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Hola-Meg-a-Cola's picture

As long as its not anytime soon (like, within two-three weeks), I'm cool with it. But I don't want to be rushed with my shit at this time of the year. I've been trying to bring my grades up :?

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Meredith Bell's picture

I don't think it would be a week real time, REAL time we've been averaging about a month to one week gametime - which is kind of the reason for timejumps in the first place ;)

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Heather's picture

Well, if we do have another time jump on one game-week's time, I'm sure real-time we'll be taking much longer than a week. :)

Mind you, I'm hoping that we'll get things moving along a bit more than we have been. It's not necessary to fill every hour of every day with stuff your character is doing - one or two posts per day should be more than sufficient for most plotlines. Heck, you can even skip a day or so, where your character doesn't do anything particular. :wink: Those who wish to cover more can do what Amanda and Dave do with their snapshot days... one post that has five or six vignettes covering that day's activities.

If you MUST have a whole bunch of stuff happening on one day, take a leaf from Lou or Adam's books and write it all well ahead of time so that when that game day arrives you just do a massive post-fest (and give the poor timeliner a heart attack).

But the trick is not to have most of us sitting around waiting for one or two people to finish up on a specific day, if we can avoid it. Sometimes shit just happens and you can't get together with someone you desperately need to collab with. We understand - we've all been there. But at this stage of the season, speed is of the essence. :)

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Allyana's picture

I'm sorry if i sound thick here, but, when would this timejump take us? and when would it occur?

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Meredith Bell's picture

Natasha Brookes wrote:
If you MUST have a whole bunch of stuff happening on one day, take a leaf from Lou or Adam's books and write it all well ahead of time so that when that game day arrives you just do a massive post-fest (and give the poor timeliner a heart attack).

It also helps to have no life ;)

To Ally, the proposal at the moment is to jump on the 23rd (gametime is currently the 16th - or it will be once everyone catches up) the time jump has been tentatively suggested for one to two weeks max, which would take us to around the 30th of April if one week, two weeks 7th of May - or thereabouts.

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Disposable_Hero's picture

I DO have stuff written in advance, that's waiting for other vairous peices to go up. Then I should be able to move along a bit, although like Meghan I've got exams relatively soonish (as in like two weeks). The only problem I have with time jumps, like the last one, is that there becomes huge gaps in time where my char doesn't do anything, and then I don't have time to catch up in flashback stuff because I'm having to focus on writing for the current time/studying.

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Kaarin's picture

Yes, having no life is a major assett ;)

On time jumps in general, I think in the future we should try to figure out before the start of the season exactly how much game time we want to cover. Let's face it: it is very true that just because the real dates are March 1 to June 30 doesn't mean that the game time has to be March 1 to June 30. Witness the first crossover in FL which takes place in about a 2 week period.

Basically we should plan on taking as much game time as is needed for the story. An exact synchronisation is not always desirable nor preferable.

While we're on the subject, I'll also (briefly) remark that I sometimes have to disagree with the "flashback" rule. Because let's face it, not everything works as a flashback - sometimes it just cheapens the post, in my opinion. In particular, as a rule of thumb, no post that does some critical thing for the main plot should ever be a flashback.

There could also be some other posts that really don't work as one - I have a set that I'm starting on fairly soon which, quite frankly, are cheapened as a flashback. My general point being that while general rules are fine, we should be willing to sacrifice them for the sake of storytelling since that is what we're doing here. 'Flashbacks' and 'official game date' being no exception.

On this one in specific, I'm slightly indifferent at this point. I think we should hold off making a decision on whether or not we do a jump until we get closer to the proposed jump time. It may be that the muses take us to a point where we can safely all go, "Hmmm, you know we can jump now" OR "you know, we really shouldn't do this; in fact, we should wrap it up."

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Firefly's picture

I agree on this mostly. I feel it's too hard to know this many days in advance if I'll be at a good point to jump then, but I understand the need to do so. I feel that it would be better to move along a few days and then see how everyone is feeling. I also think for future seasons, having a map of how we are going to progress is a good idea, cause this is the one thing we can't seem to get a good handle on.

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CryingKnight's picture

Ok I understand peoples difficulties. One of the reasons I suggested a time jump is that a plotline I'm involved in really needs more than a week to mature. Unfortunately there are other people associated with it and really I don't feel I should be making them sit on their hands while we watch every one post another couple of weeks of game time.

A time jump for me at least solves the issue. I don't force the other players to sit around doing nothing and events that should take a while to occur have the chance to breathe.

Still I understand if opthers are unhappy with the suggestion. If it comes down to it I guess I'll rush it it won't be the first time nor I imagine the last.

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Nikolai wrote:
On time jumps in general, I think in the future we should try to figure out before the start of the season exactly how much game time we want to cover. Let's face it: it is very true that just because the real dates are March 1 to June 30 doesn't mean that the game time has to be March 1 to June 30. Witness the first crossover in FL which takes place in about a 2 week period.

Basically we should plan on taking as much game time as is needed for the story. An exact synchronisation is not always desirable nor preferable.



There are a couple of points I'd like to raise in regard to this. The first is that while one or two people are writing 5 million posts all on the same game day, those of us who are writing only one or two posts per game day have to sit around and twiddle our thumbs waiting for the board to catch up. I understand that sometimes a particular story line has a lot happening on the one day, but it shouldn't be drawn out so that one game day takes two real time weeks to get through. And while taking as much game time as is needed for the story may work in such a situation for someone who wants to condense all their events into a short time frame, those whose stories are better served by stretching it out are then disadvantaged. This board isn't a writing forum for one player - it's a writing forum for a whole bunch of players. Why should the majority of people have to hang around waiting for one person to finish their grand opus?

The second point that follows on from this refers to your very example. Yes, the FL Crossover took place in two weeks game time. And Season One LABN took place in sixteen days. When you go back and read Season One, an awful lot happened in those sixteen days, making it incredibly dense. No character had a moment to pause, or carry on with life as normal in between crises. That, I feel, damages the story. It would be nice to have a sense of time passing. And remember how many writers we had in Season One? About half the number we have now. If we now tried to do a full season in such a short space of time the density would be completely ridiculous.

This is why we try to expand the game time out. And it's not like it's a decision that I've made myself, or that Dave and I have made together. We're just the ones that remind people and generally prompt for time jumps (which in this case was only after several people asked me about one on msn - and it was Robin who suggested the next one). This was a decision made by the majority of the group way back at the start of Season Two when we agreed that we didn't want to have that awful debacle of the entire season happening in a two-week period again. It wasn't made by just one or two people.

Yes, the story should take as long as the story takes, and apart from Season Three when the date of the finale became important for ritualistic purposes for The Brotherhood, we haven't enforced a specific end date game time. But the story DOES need to breathe. In order to do that, we can't let our game posts get bunched up in a single, heaving mass. Space your actions out a bit. Gods, it isn't hard, you know, to make one post for the 16th and the follow up post for the 17th, and so on. Not everything happening to your character HAS to happen on the one day.

All we ask - and this related to everyone - is that you don't make the rest of us get bogged down by condensing your posts to a small number of days. Space it out or - if lots of stuff has to happen on the one day for whatever reason - ensure that the posts are all written well ahead of time and post them quickly so that when that day arrives the rest of us aren't waiting around for the epic masterpiece to be written one slow post at a time.

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Kaarin's picture

Actually Heather I somewhat disagree and somewhat don't. I didn't mean to imply we SHOULD condense into as short a time frame at all. As much time as is needed for the story means just that: as much time as is needed for the story. Sometimes that could be about 2 weeks; it could be a month; it could be five.

And I don't think that density always damages the story (it CAN in a number of cases, but not always). Sometimes density is actually required. Using that very example, I don't think that the crossover would have worked spread out over say, 2 months. We were trying to write a true crisis situation, one which involved a political element.

Probably the point I was trying to get at indirectly is that we might consider trying to figure out what sort of timeframe we want to use to tell the overall story in. "Downtime" can be both productive and counter-productive.

Who knows? Perhaps in a season or two we'll devise a villain or situation that only works as one of these very time-sensitive cirses that takes 22 days MAX to carry out. Or maybe we'll have to wait 100 days for someone to turn into a giant snake. (Ok, that's a joke).

My general point? I'm not against time jumps, or big time jumps, or spacing things out - just raising the point that there can be times in which "spacing out" can damage a story, just as there are times when you need time to "breathe." It all depends on what the story demands.

Which isn't to say that there's any kind of set formula we can use, just that how much time a particular story needs to be told can vary. Some stuff wants a while to mature and sizzle; some other ideas don't give you time to think or relax. In the end, all we can do is go where the muses guide us. :)

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Heather's picture

Yep, I can see a lot of where you're coming from there. Over the seasons we've come to find that about four months seems to work best for telling the whole story, which generally entails either a few small time jumps or one or two larger ones to accommodate it. But there's scope for a season to effectively be longer or shorter, and as I said in my earlier post, we've never enforced a finale game date (except the one instance where ritual required it). Perhaps our Big Bad discussions in the future should include comments on everyone's concept of the appropriate time frame and any jumps that should be considered, with an option for extra jumps if the timeline gets too far off course.

But the main point I was trying to make earlier is that general timing of posts should be such that the majority of people aren't feeling either rushed OR being forced to wait for one or two who are bogging the game time down. And I have to say that Season Four for the most part has been subject to a fair amount of bogging. I know there are a lot of us, and sometimes collabs are hard to arrange... but the story shouldn't be held up for the sake of one or two people who are stuck on a certain game date. Unless the story keeps moving forward we'll never get to a satisfactory conclusion in a suitable timeframe.

There's a lot of stuff that needs to go on with Delancre, but we can't get to it because we're still fluffing around on the same date. Not everything with Delancre is going to happen in the space of a few days. There are several weeks of development still to go, and if we persist in having each day specified hour by hour then we won't get this season finished until real time hits 2007 itself. And if that means more time jumps, then I'm afraid time jumps it'll have to be.

There's a choice. Everyone does one post per game day or so (or if multiples are required that it's all pre-written and can be posted in a block) and keeps the overall story moving along, or we live with the likelihood that more time jumps will have to happen.

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Natasha Brookes wrote:
There are several weeks of development still to go, and if we persist in having each day specified hour by hour then we won't get this season finished until real time hits 2007 itself. And if that means more time jumps, then I'm afraid time jumps it'll have to be.

Ouch! Why do I get the feeling you're talking about me here? Yes I've wrote A LOT of posts dated for the 16th - but how many other people have written ANYTHING for that day? Not very many to be honest, in fact, since most people were lingering back on the 15th I took that to mean that I could be slightly more relaxed in my posting. Especially since the only post AFTER the 16th was ONE post that Heather put up for the 17th. To me, that doesn't indicate that everyone is desperately sitting on their hands waiting for the game to pick up speed, and if they were, well then no one has actually said anything, especially not to me.

EDIT: Actually the only reason why I've posted so much on the 16th was because I DIDN'T want to steam ahead too far and leave other people behind. If you want to blame something, blame this lack of communication between players.

In my experience, the best way to hurry people up, is to actually post and push the game days on, if no one is doing that (actually no one IS doing that right now since like I said, most people have posted for the 15th and just bypassed the ACTUAL start date for after the time jump.) Well I don't think it's right to complain that 'one or two people' - or ME - let's face it since I'm the only one who seems to be posting on the 16th right now - are taking a few days to get things in order.

In the meantime, if people want to post a few days ahead, I'm not stopping them.

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Allyana's picture

Well, first of all let me tell you that I completely understand the need of timejumps, and that I don’t envy nor underestimate the never-ending task of timelining them. Somehow it seems like daily chores to me, you never end them and they are not rewarded (but believe me, Heather, they are :D, at least for me, I’m always checking the timeline to see how you summarized my posts :D).

Now, I know I’m pretty new at the game and I can't come in here and try to impose my ideas just like that. I’m sure the whole 4 month lapse was discussed on as well as the need to maintain chronological order in the posts, but… and there’s always a but, isn’t there? In all the time I’ve been playing I felt so much more at ease on the midseason when that ‘chronological order’ was still kept but so much more flexible. I wonder why can't we do something like that in seasons.

I mean, why do we ALL have to be on the same day or whereabouts? If what I wrote doesn’t affect anybody else’s line of events and I don’t plan to for a long while, why can't I post something that happens a couple of days after the ‘game day’ of the moment. That way nobody would make nobody wait, unless their stories are related, of course. For example my story and Lou’s are completely unrelated at the present moment, I hadn't thought I couldn’t write anything past the 16th. To tell you the truth I haven’t because I just couldn’t find the time to write or the muses to impel me to do it or I’m just too lazy, all occurrences pretty common in the boards, I assume.

Besides there are days that just have to be told hour by hour, for the story’s sake.

Please, again, I don’t want to go against the ‘status quo’ but when I read posts like the ones before this, where people seem ready to start fighting about issues, I wonder.

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Catherine Wiccham wrote:
Natasha Brookes wrote:
There are several weeks of development still to go, and if we persist in having each day specified hour by hour then we won't get this season finished until real time hits 2007 itself. And if that means more time jumps, then I'm afraid time jumps it'll have to be.

Ouch! Why do I get the feeling you're talking about me here? Yes I've wrote A LOT of posts dated for the 16th - but how many other people have written ANYTHING for that day? .....

In my experience, the best way to hurry people up, is to actually post and push the game days on, ......

In the meantime, if people want to post a few days ahead, I'm not stopping them.

No, Lou, I wasn't pointing the finger at anyone. A lot of us have been guilty of the same sort of thing in the past (me included). And I DID try to push the game ahead by making my 17th post. But since my next post after THAT is the 18th it seemed unfair to post that one too, in an effort to encourage people to move onto the 17th, since I'd then be too far ahead. I only had one post to use to push the game on, and I used it. It's not my fault that nobody else started to post the 17th as soon as it was up. I can only push so much by myself.

In this particular situation, yes I'm afraid you seem to be the only one posting, so I can see why you may have thought I was singling you out. But I was talking to EVERYone... because at some point almost all of us have gummed up the works here and there. And as well as trying to push people on the 16th forward, I was also trying to push those who hadn't yet posted their 17th to do so and get the game moving that way. And it would seem it may have worked, since I now see a new 17th post on the board. :) Keep it up, guys...

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Marcus wrote:
Ok I realise we've only just completed one jump but I was thinking we might schedule in the next so evey one has a chance to work their plotlines out.

I was thinking we jump again on about the 23rd of April game time. ( please note this isn't a reason to squash your entire plot into a week of game time) We're already into May and I imagine that by the time we do hit the next jump we'll be in June.

To revitalise the discussion on any future mini-jumps, I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on skipping a few days, or possibly even a week of game time soon? I think Robin's suggestion of getting to the 23rd April and then skipping ahead a week is still a sound one. It'll give us time to space things out a bit. I know Delancre's plot isn't going to resolve in a big hurry - he's not wanting to rush things at this critical juncture and he's still setting things in motion. So he won't be ready until probably June game time. And although some of the characters are beginning to get pieces of the Hyde puzzle, it'll take to about June as well to get enough of the bits put together. If we want to get there in anything approaching a decent time frame in real time I think we'll need a few more mini-jumps of a week or so here and there.

Skipping again at the 23rd April gives us a week of game time to play out current bits, then a week in which events that we've set up by the 23rd flow along as predicted, then we come back on about the 30th April or 1st May and introduce the odd spanner into the works. :) Remember, something you do to someone today may not have repurcussions for a week. Consequences aren't always immediate.

The trick with time jumps is to know well in advance when they're going to occur, so everyone can plan their solos and collabs to match the timing. By setting up a time jump NOW for events still several days off in game time, we give ourselves a chance to do that planning.

So, I agree with Robin's suggestion. Let's have a one-week jump starting the 23rd April game time, to come back into it on 30th April or 1st May game time. The jump would start when we reach the 23rd game date (and at the rate we're going, that's going to be at least another couple of weeks real time, if not more).

Thoughts, comments, objections, suggestions?

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Heh, the only problem I have is that I pretty much need to know ASAP what we're doing. The stuff Robin myself and Shaun have set up regarding a certain ressurection spell would benefit from a time jump before the actual event (giving kate and marcus a more reasonable time to prepare) though because the general concensus seemed opposed to a time jump we've started to try and cram things into a week. Now we can always space them back out to cover the jump if that goes ahead, but obviously, at this moment, we just need to know what's going on for the sake of planning.

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Yep, I can appreciate that. It's one of the reasons I'm trying to garner everyone's thoughts on whether it's a yes or a no for a 23rd April time jump. The sooner we all know, the better. After Robin's first attempt to bring this up the discussion kind of died off and a clear result was never achieved, which is why I've reposted it.

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I dont have a problem for a jump from the 23rd forward, as long as you give me a couple of days (maybe the weekend?) to post what i'm baking.

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Alessa wrote:
I dont have a problem for a jump from the 23rd forward, as long as you give me a couple of days (maybe the weekend?) to post what i'm baking.

I'm sure you'll wind up with much longer than that, Ally, while we wait for all the players to get their characters to the 23rd April in the first place. The time jump we're proposing is for a week game time after the last one, not a week real time. Just keep an eye on the board to see what date it's up to game time, and try not to set anything for your characters between the 23rd April and the 30th April. :)

As the board gets closer to the 23rd (ie, posts for the 22nd are appearing), only then would this proposed time jump be imminent.

Though I'm still hanging out for the game to advance beyond the 18th... if everyone's done with their 18th posts, I know there are a few 19th ones hanging about out there, including a collab I did with Matt that I believe he's posting. :)

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