Submitted by Heather on Mon, 12/15/2003 - 16:10
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Yep, it's that time again. Time to decide who or what we'll be structuring our main story arc around for the next season.
I know there are a few people with ideas floating around out there. The most developed one I know of is the one Kris has been working on regarding Ambrose Delancre and his new-order Watchers' Council.
This is the thread for everyone to put forth their own ideas, or comment on what's presented here until we have a Big Bad we're all happy with and can integrate our characters into for Season 4.
Happy brainstorming. :)
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Ok well I had something in mind that could tie in with the new Watcher Order.
Ok, Now I figured that since Season 3s BB was like a group of uber powerful people, maybe for season 4 we could try something alittle different. Instead of having Delancre right away deal with LA by force, i was thinking he (or someone he could hire) will create a magical virus.
Now, this magical Virus will spread through the PCs and NPCs slowly throughout the season, and as each one gets infected, they slowly start to turn bad. Characters will turn evil, some will have avoided the infection, others maybe were infected and now cured and by the end there will be a big showdown between the remaining Good white hats, and the infected ones. Of course, by the end the cure will be administered to everyone, and the virus will be detroyed completely, thereby foiling Delancre's plans, and forcing him to come to LA by force in Season 5.
I think it could be fun cause people could experiment with making their characters evil for awhile. Imagine the possible showdowns: Chance vs Alessa, Jeet vs Reah, Kate vs Galen.. Nik vs his crazy ghost :P
Anyways, I havent totally fleshed it out (Like how is it contagious, who starts it specifically, etc etc) but I thought it was pretty cool. Well thats my idea, hope people like it :D
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This is a very interesting idea. I am fascinated by the thought of writing a bad version of Daye. I for one would be willing to hold off Delancre's invasion if that is what everyone wanted to do. So, really, it's up to all of you.
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Of course if there is a magical threat that the CDC (Center for Disease Control) and FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) cannot handle and if MJ12 can't handle it...there are few international agencies outside the WC with the manpower and resources to handle a magical threat of that scale...
I can just hear Delancre making a oily proposal to President David Palmer saying that they are prepared to handle the situation while preparing his "troops" for invading LA under the guise of emergency management.
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Two characters have evoked the name of Angelus this season (James and Adriana) I realize it is outside the scope we set for ourselves back in the beginning, but what is the feeling about having the Insane Soulled Vampire Angel make an appearance in Season 4?
And the second question, if he comes back...does he get dusted or what?
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Oh, duh...
I guess for those of you who don't already know I should explain about Lord Delancre and his army.
I came up with this idea which revolves around the Watcher who made Daye a Watcher. This man, Ambrose Delancre, is intent on taking over the world and recreating it in his image, an image in which he is "god" and everyone serves his whim. Delancre has an obsession with demons and has used his place and resources to create an army of demons and demon/human hybrids. One of the most sucessful of these was of course the Nightwalker, AKA Ryan. Delancre took Ryan from Daye and told her that her lover had been killed, when in actuality, he was taken to a compound in Columbia and through both genetic and mystical experimentation was turned into the psychotic we all love to hate.
Delancre has an army of these things, as I just mentioned, and leading his army is the new Slayer, Anna Graziani, a girl handpicked by Ambrose and reared by her Watcher to be a military leader.
Delancre has an obsession with Maia, because he has access to the prophecy concerning the child and believes he can manipulate the fates and use Maia to gain power over the whole world.
My plans were for this season to be the season when Ambrose comes to L.A. with his army in order to eliminate the "corrupting influences" (that's all of you) on Daye and Jess and the other Watchers here.
I have worked out some subplot stuff with a couple of you that involve Ambrose as well.
Anyway, that's sort of a brief(?) overview of what I had in mind. So, what do you all think?
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Wowser...how cool would it be to see Angel in LABN....I would think it would be totally awsome AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we cant dust Angel.
Also, about virus idea...maybe also make the virus only transmittable to people who have paranormal aura's (ok sounds complicated, but it could make it easier to deal with the fact that the majority of people in LA wont be infected...however if you look at practically every PC, they could be infected (even the humans: Tash: pyschic, Kate and Daye: lots of magic in their aura, same for Cole, Quin: that weird rat power :P, Adrianna: Gypsy magic (if im remembering correctly)....pretty much only Galen who I could see being not able to infect,..... or we can always go with everyone is able to be infected....
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I think the Ambrose story is really awsome, so if people dont wanna hold of for season 5, im all cool with doing it season four......(of course I still Like my season 4 idea heheh)
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I like that idea, too. It works out well for most of the player characters, and leaves the general populace out of it. It's just the kind of thing that Ambrose would do, totally. Anyway, I'm game either way.
And I too would love a guest spot by everyone's insane MPD.
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First off: if Angel appears, I request the honour of killing him. As many times as I can. :)
For various reasons I cannot go into now, I'm not too fond of the 'evil virus' idea - and actually like the Delancre idea, though that has more to do with subplot stuff worked out than anything else. Having Delancre arrive in season four let's me be evil, and allows a rather funky scene I have to be used. ;)
Which is not to say that things can't altered to still make it work, and an idea already forms regarding the creation of said virus - though I should state that there is an idea already that I am aware of for the big bad in season five. And a virus allows me some more funky thoughts.... GRRR! DAMN YOU SHAUN!
Anyway, here's a potential thought on a virus which pulls together several ideas, complete with my conspiracy background. :)
I have not developed exactly what some of the forumals Project Lazarus was working on did, except that the Initiative had as its goal the creation of a 'super soldier'. One such thing that would help, naturally, would be to create something which would inhibit those parts of the brain dealing with petty things like moral inhibitions.
Let's face it: our moral intuitions tell us you fight wars a certain way. From a means-ends standpoint, moral rules just make it harder to win. While we might be less inclined to object to 'destroy all vampires,' there is enough ambiguity to make 'destroy all demons' more problematic. Or indeed other things - do you kill the hybrids as well?
This also means that they need a test case. This scientist had to flee MJ-12 for whatever reason - probably for continuing the research - and was taken in by Ambrose Delancre. Delancre, naturally, recognised the possible value of the virus as a 'crisis' could have. Surely he would recognise the influence that being the 'saviour' of humanity would give him in occult circles, especially against some sort of virus.
And I should probably shut up now....
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Although I really like the idea of the 'magic virus', we DID just have a bunch PC's going evil (off the top of my head: Chance, Jade, Darian, James (ish)...)...so although it's not that I don't like the idea (I do, Shaun, honest :P) but more that I think we should hold off before more PC's go evil, if ya get what I'm saying :D Y'know, take a little time out hehe
So, in that case I say go with the Delancre one.
As for Angel...maybe a cameo apperance rather than a major role?
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More thoughts on the virus.
Keeping infection down: a mystical virus could very well do that. Be targeted at a part of the population, and leave Majestic-12 in a tight spot. As ruthless as the organisation can be, having their Men in Black either infected or killed off when they go to deal with the situation will not be good for moral.
I had the idea that MJ-12 has an elite strike team a while ago. Their elimination would be enough to potentially allow an outside group like the WC intervene. Or even taxing their resources to the point where they can just cover it up, but not necessarily deal with it.
A better thought would be that Delancre could be using this as a WAY to eliminate the 'undue influences' on Daye. And as a test - you have a powerfull hunter or witch go evil, the council will want to take them out. So would a number of other groups.
So! We have LA as the testing ground for a mystical virus which is used to do a 'divide and conquer' strategy. It need not have a long period in which it can be passed, either, to be effective. Say, it only has a six to twelve hour period in which it is contagous. Or even worse, it is contageous only to non-carriers.
Either way, the ultimate goal is to not have all PCs infected. And yes, I do want to have Nik infected. In fact, I imagine he'll catch on to what's happening. ;)
ANYwhos, before I digress again or give away my plotting, the thought is that Delancre can use this to try to set the 'undue influences' against each other. The 'virus' can be introduced in a number of ways. Perhaps a special demon soldier has been created to carry it. Perhaps as well it is a mystical ritual which affects a small area, and some of the good guys on patrol become infected.
Which lets Delancre be the big bad, and make his dramatic entrance as well - with the aim of trying to go and wipe us all out.
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That thought had occured to me in the middle of writting this latest expansion on the idea as well, but you know my muses... I've developed ideas just for fun on occassion. Personally, I'm still all for Delancre and no virus. I'm just tossing ideas out there for if we do go with it.
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Hehe. See, Shaun? I told you not to worry.
Shaun showed me his idea before he posted, 'cause he was worried people might think it was - in his words - silly. And I immediately jumped on it as a possible method Delancre might employ to disable the White Hats - who by then should be rather more organised than they have been in the past, if I can bring my MidSeason 3 plotting together...
I've been behind Kris' Ambrose Delancre plot for some time as our Season Four Big Bad, but can see the possibilities of adding other elements such as Shaun's virus to it. Adam's conspiracy plotting also adds spice to the mix. I love the idea of tying up that Project Lazarus thread at last. :)
As for writing Angel into the plot - I'm less keen on that idea. But if we do, can I kill him? Lots and lots? Please? Adam, I'll thumb-wrestle you for the privilege.
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Or we can settle killing Angel like killing Britney was settled between Amanda and I - I got to write it, but Reah did it. :)
More random thoughts are bound to occur, but we at least need to decide who gets infected and who does not. I know a few people I would like to see NOT infected (Chance, Darian come to mind, along with Tash - sorry Heather, you already had an evil clone) though. hehe, I Can see us all scrambling to go evil for a season.
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DG Tash wasn't exactly evil - she was just deviant. There's a difference. :D
I would definitely be interested in exploring a bit of evil Tash for a while... :wink:
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Hmm . . . Angel. The only reason why I mentioned him was to get Adriana's ass into LA! But it would be interesting.
I'm liking the magical virus idea, especially since Adriana's getting the reputation for being "innocent".
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About Angel, i'm not too sure, it'd be really nice to see him on the board but don't we already have rules saying we won't use any actual main buffyverse characters? or is it just me?
And about Angel being dust i have one word, and several afterwards GAH!!!! HOW CAN WE EVEN THINK IT!!!.....but we could always send him to hell again...;)
seriously, come to think of it, mad Angel making a guest appearance would be very interesting indeed. It would fill Drea's purpose for being in LA. Perhaps with the virus idea, which btw Shaun i really like, we could fit Angel in...perhaps link the virus with Wolfram and Hart before Angel destroyed it? And Delancre having something to do with the virus, bringing it back, Angelus could make an appearance to stop it once more, or perhaps give a solution for its cure? Even then maybe Gunn and Weasley can make an appearance too, but i think that would be just going a bit far, and would be reallly difficult juggling so many main characters....
I'm just brainstorming here, so just ignore me if i'm not making any sense.... also ever thought of bringing Spike over? (might i add SQUEEE and HUBBA HUBBA!!!)....btw wat has happened to our beloved captain peroxide in labn? has he been dust in the closing of the hellmouth that took the scoobie's lives or has he survived?
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sqweee! coolies, i also like the virus'y idea thing, would be ver' interesting. though for some reason i think i might be the FIRST to offer their PC to stay good *slaps face* shock horror! although it would be fun... *shrugs* ah well. Quin on the other hand :twisted:
but saadia just got me thinking as well (added onto the previous thinkings and what not) with virus spreading and angel appearing - please don't shun me, but feel free to throw bricks if i repeat others cos i misread or something :oops: hehe - angel could even be whatever monster was infected to bring about the virus... and i wouldn't be too put out if we did kill him :D hehe, would be quite funky, lol! it could be like some miscomforting climax/false finale type thing where everyones like "yay, dangers over! wave tiny flags!" and then they all start to go all odd and evil when infection starts to settle in....
*shrugs* i don't know... am not a great plotter :P but i do like this idea (well done shaun) and whether or not peeps like this or think its a pile 'o' crap is all up to you :D fit it in, cram it into a wood chipper, either way :mrgreen:
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ok more on my idea:
I think it would be cool if Delancre inplanted the virus in a demon warrior (like someone suggested before) and in one of the last posts of midseason, the first person would become infected. To tie in the conspiracy, I like what Adam wrote about it being tied with Project Lazarus, and its something Delancre found out about.
Also, about what Mat said: I for one would not turn Darian evil. Like you said, he did that in Season 3 (even though it only lasted 4 posts) but still its been done (or atleast for awhile). The same goes for Chance. However there are alot of other PCs and NPCs who have never been bad, and it gives them a chance to do so.
Sooooooo thats about it, I wont give it tons more thought unless I think people are willing to go with it.
PS: Kill Angel....again GASP noooooo........(and rethinking, maybe im not too keen on seeing him in LABN)
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Please, please, PLEASE let's not get carried away. I, for one, am dead set against the idea of having Angel (or Gunn, or Wesley, or Spike, or ANYone major from the series) in the game. The whole point was to have a story set in the Buffyverse but keeping away from established characters. There are a million rpg's out there where people can take on the personas of actual Buffy/Angel characters - LA By Night, however, is not one of them.
Angel has been mentioned in passing once or twice in game and for me that's more than enough. Please let's not do this to LABN.
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Yes we do. For good reason, too. Mostly it was becasue we were trying to avoid "alternate" realities from the mainline series...unfortunately the sweeping changes this season have sort of put a stake into that idea.
I mentioned it because I wanted to eliminate this ONE loose end--Angel. I really want to see him dead to us because then it is a non-issue from now on. As for Spike, Wesley, Gunn and compnay, they are in San Francisco and will stay there until hell freezes over. Start a San Francisco by Night if you want to have them in the game...I only asked about Angel.
Not my intent in bringing it up here at all. Frankly I'd just as soon he never reappears. If he does it might be in the form of rumors and innuendo. Drea (Why can't anyone have a full name? Oz, Drea, Reah, Tash, Daye, Kate, Nik...Everyone has a shortened name...what is with that?--Okay end of Jerry Seinfeld Moment) may decide to finish her trail with a pile of Angel Dust found just moments after one of her relatives stakes him. Her job was (in actuality) to beat the bushes to flush him out of hiding since his curse was nullified by his madness.
The same way we thought of Eliminating Victor, Sorrow, Ellie, and all of the other characters we love. Becasue we can. This is HIGH drama folks, anything can happen and usually does.
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well being new to this im quite excited by any big bad, i'd like to tie in Jeet's presence if possible, if you hadn't guessed i was workinng around him being summoned for his amulet which will release the mother of all demons. im sure this could fit with everyone elses ideas somehow but hey if not no worries :D
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Well, first of all I like both Ideas, Delancre's one (I have already talked to Kris and Adam regarding this one and we had thought of a way of linking Alessa to it) and the virus one (just dont make Chance bad again, ok Matt? It'd be Alessa's turn this time :wink: ).
But I think Adam's ideas of linking the two together are very good too, so I'd go for this third option.
Either way, if we dont go for the virus one, let's put it in "stasis" for another season, because i think it's really good (well done :D Shaun , silly? nah!! :roll: )
Are you serious? It's great to have a shortened name, believe me, my name is Ana. :roll: Try to shorten that!!
And about Angel... I agree with you Heather and Dave, let's not bring him in. He's too powerful a presence, he'd gobble the game up (who wouldnt want to write him or Spike or any of those, hell we are all here because we love Buffy!!) Besides one of the reasons I love LAbn is because we are not tied to the past... :D
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any wya here is my idea some people might rember that i created a groupe of demons vamps and humans called the harbingers there are 2 diffrnt types of harbingers the harbingers of souls who are made up of vampires and lesser demons as foot soilders , then there is the harbinger of skulls mages totaly dedicated to bringing forth the leader known as dukal who is said to have figured out the secrate of immortalitey anyway to the point dukal was betrayed thousdans of years ago by his fellow covenant members who figured out that dukal was doing, dukal himself was a true immortal he expermented on every type of demon, animal , and human he could find and he finaly found the anser he could nto be stoped the covenant mebers finaly stoped him by opening a portal to where all the lost spirts go and traped him in there unabel to escape dukal found himself wandering the barrn planes meeting spirts who like himself where taraped he slowley began to gain there trust and they showed him loopholes and ways for him to leave the limbo he was traped in , they showed him how to allow his spirt to leave his body and vist the living world but never being abel to do much in the living world btu scear a few sheep farmers , untill one day he had an idea, he slwoley but surley began to vist the domains of powerfull demon and human mages and recrte them into his new reformed covenant the harbingers, when everything fellinto place they descoved they needed a magicley hot bad to open the portal and the only place where such a thing was present was in a village in scotland when they attempted to openfulley oepn the portal the watchers counsel had sent the slayer to stop , the slayer sucefuley stoped dukal's coming but not before the death of the slayer .
anyway to the point basicley the harbingers have descoverd they can only relase dukal with the souls of the living cretures, these souls are the souls of the desndants of the first slayer who stoped the coming of dukal back in the 17th century when they get all the souls dukal will be bck with his army and then the world goes to hell
man i suck at selling a good story it always sounds better in my head
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James, I'm still trying to read that.... :roll:
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Hmm, is there any way to link Dukal's army with Delancre? With Ambrose's fascination with demons, maybe he's made some kind of deal with Dukal - assistance in getting him out of his trap if he promises to use his harbingers to aid Delancre's rise to power?
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Translation:
Anyway, here is my idea. Some people may remember that I created a group of vamps, humans and demons called The Harbingers. There are two different types of Harbingers: Harbingers of Souls (who are made up of vampires and lesser demons as foot soilders)and the Harbinger of Skulls (mages totally dedicated to bringing forth the leader known as Dukal who is said to have figured out the secrate of immortalitey).
Dukal was betrayed thousands of years ago by his fellow coven members who figured out what Dukal was doing. Dukal was a true immortal who expermented on every type of demon, animal and human he could find until he finaly found the answer. He would not be dissuaded. His former coven members finally stopped him by opening a portal to [a hell dimesion] and trapped him.
Dukal found himself wandering the barren planes, meeting spirts who, like himself, were trapped. He slowly began to gain their trust and they showed him ways to leave his Limbo prison. They showed him how to [astrally project himself into the Earth dimension]. He never managed to do much more than scare a few sheep farmers until one day he had an idea.
He began to vist the domains of powerful demons and human mages and recruit them into his "new reformed coven" The Harbingers. When everything fell into place, They discovered they needed a magical hot spot in which to open the portal. The only place where such a thing existed was in a village in Scotland.
When they attempted to open the portal in the 17th century, The Watchers' Counsel sent the Slayer to stop them. She stopped Dukal's coming, but at the cost of her life.
The harbingers have discovered that they can only release Dukal by using living souls. These souls must be from the descendants of the Slayer who stoped Dukal back in the 17th century. When they get all the souls, Dukal will be back with his army and then the world goes to Hell.
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This must also assume that this 17th century slayer was a mother...I can tell you that this is a rare (and wonderful) occurrance...I doubt that there are more than 30 instances of slayer-mothers all told.
Assume 1 slayer has 1 child (no full-time slayer could manage 2)
Every 20 years is a generation where you double the brood...
using 1650 as a start date and an average life of 60 years...
18 generations later you have over 400,000 descendants.
That isn't really practical...
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I think he meant every Slayer after her, her 'decendants' if not biologically, so... right?
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Well, if that were the case there'd only ever be one to kill - the current Slayer. :)
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yea heather got what i ment ... im not good at getting my point over sorry
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Ok, I've sorted it out. To be freed, Dukal needs ONE soul of a direct descendent of the 17th century Slayer that killed him. Jamie's told me a little more to the story, but it checks out ok.
The main question is, what do people feel about this Dukal being the Big Bad in Season 4, or somehow being associated with Delancre? Or should we save Dukal for another season?
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Personally I still like Delancre as the big bad.... and it will be fairly complex with the virus running as well.
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He's my baby and I'll go to bat for him. I do like James' idea, but I don't want too much going on at one time here. If you think Dukal et all can carry a whole season, then we should hold off on it. I want Delancre to be this season's BB and the more I read about the virus, the more I want to incorporate it into my ideas. I was thinking in particular that it can be my important information Daye has to hold over the heads of the council. Assume for a moment, if you will, that the virus is developed by someone working for another organization, like The Initiative, and when that organization falls apart, Delancre recruits the scientist or scientists. ( I believe Adam mentioned this already.) Now, Delancre keeps this little project even more secret than the army, but his idea is he can use this virus to wipe out other magical threats. Perhaps to get rid of people from places like Sindell and the Ministry, so that they can't interfere when he finally decides to take control of the world. So, he lets the virus loose in L.A. with the intent of killing two birds with one stone, ie. testing his virus and getting rid of the troublesome "white hats." He could even allow Daye to become infected with the hopes that said infection will make her more amenable to deserting the others and bringing him what he's truly after, Maia. Since Sam and Drew would not become infected, they would have to take the baby and hide her somewhere and perhaps Daye and the other infected could make it their goal to find her and take her away. Then in the final showdown, Sam and Drew could bring together the non infected to fight the infected. Somehow there would be a cure or something found, and that would thwart Ambrose plan. He would be deposed or something and either killed or locked away by the council. The resulting aftermath would leave the WC in big trouble with some other organizations if it ever came out that Ambrose Delancre was ultimately responsible for the virus, and so, to keep Daye and her friends from talking, the WC would offer some concessions to them. That way Daye gets her shop, free and clear, and keeps her information sources and others could ask for certain things too, and they could demand that the WC keep it's interfering mitts out of L.A.
So, let me know what you think about this whole rambling thing. Thanks all.
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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh Me likey
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what he said *points up* :) hehe
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*gives it the thumbs-up*
:)
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*looks up from word file*
*smiles*
*returns to prewritting*
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:D
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Allow me to add on to who exactly is infected, just so we can avoid the "not it" game.
I forget who mentioned before (its was probably Shuan) but I thought the people with magic abilities (or it could possibly run throught their blood) was a good idea to keep the number of people infected low. This is what I have come up with so far:
Delancre could first send out an infected demon/human hybrid thingy (feel free to correct me) and attacks Tash while she's on her nightly patrol, for lack of a better word. Since she was born on the spring equinox, it gave a bit of unwanted mysticism (sp?) that is unknown to her. This mysticism attracts the virus and she is immediatly infected, unbeknownst to Tash.
Now, Delancre is a smart man. He knows that Tash being the first to be infected was the right choice. She seemed to be the leader of the "white hats", allowing the virus to spread amongst them.
Not everyone has that certain mysticism to them, so they are unable to contract it. This causes some surprise when Tash begins to show some changes in her personality. The "white hats" are even more suspicious when Kate undergoes the same change. Kate, being from a long line if wiccas, has mysticism naturally in her blood.
This spreads to Daye, the real object of Delancre's plan. She quickly is infected. Drew and Sam, noticing the change, take Maia away, as explained in Kristin's post.
Cole, now hanging around Tash all the time, also becomes infected because of his wicca blood. Quin, who seems to like Cole, contracts the virus from hanging around him due to the amount of mysticism her rat power thingy has created.
Eventually, it reaches Adriana. Now, her magic abilities are definatly NOT the best in the world (in the words of Sergei to Drea, "You suck at magic"). So she can't affected that way. But, when she was born, many tests were performed on her to see if she possessed to ability to see visions. The tests required heavy duty magic, creating her own field of mysticism (I really need another word for mysticism).
But, there are a few individuals who have a natural immunity to the virus. Darian and Chance have tremendously powerful creatures implanted within them, radiating an aura off that detracts the virus. Vampires are already dead, and the virus is programmed to avoid the dead. It would be a waste of time. So the chances of James and Leigh getting infected are quite low.
Okay, that's all I can come up with now. If you want to ecpland on your character, or possibly give a reason why your character should be infected, or why they shouldn't be, feel free to do so. If you don't like my idea all together, then don't listen to this crazy girl's rambling.
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Yep, some good points in there, Meghan. Though Tash's spring equinox link has already been explained in MidSeason 1 - but her psychic abilities and whatnot still mark her as a mystic. Not to mention the weird merging thing she did to become Vicasha (briefly) and all that yummy vodoun knowledge. :twisted:
I'm certainly keen to have Tash explore a more evil side in Season 4 - it'll be fun. :)
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I think Nik should be infected, simply because of the fact that he will (due to various things going on) have a sort of natural resistance to the virus though not exactly an immunity. Can't say more now without giving away my plot stuff, thought he people who already know where I'm going with him can naturally get more in private. :)
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Strangely enough, I beleive that Oz would be immune to the virus. He is fully human and even though he can manifest wings they are more of an extension of who he was (an angel) than who he is. Like a badge of office so to speak.
I think the word you are looking for is mana. This is magical potential inherent in something.
Tash has mana from Ohenewaa's knowledge and her merging with Victor
Nik has mana from his time on G'rnatha and his merging with the Xangyarj.
Alessa, Fate, Chance, Darian, Jade and Mantheana have mana from their hybrid nature.
Alice and Tarix are demons and automatically have mana (not to mention Alice's tattoos are powered by mana)
Cole, Daye, Adriana, Jeet, Quin and Kate are all mystics and therefore have mana.
I don't see any mana potential in Reah, Kieran, Tyler or Oz becasue they are human but do not employ magics in any form.
And The Vampires are automatically immune because they are dead.
That means everyone on the board is potentially evil except Reah, Kieran, Tyler and Oz. They have few potential allies in Parasol or Leigh.
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I agree with all you've said Dave, including the word maná, (it exists in Spanish too, but with the accent :wink: ) but I like Meghan's thought of Chance and Darian not getting infected because their inner demons are too powerful for the virus to hold. They will have the last word, of course, but i think it's a good excuse, considering all we've talked and the fact that I believe they dont want to turn evil again. :roll:
And arent Tarix and Jessy half humans like Alessa?
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Yub yub, they are, half humans half demons...so that meaning that they are hybrids would never the less still make them have mana rite?
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Oooohhh...looking good :D
I like the idea that Dray'chen;s and Evexus' presence kinda 'conteracts' the virus and provides a sort of immunity. Bit ironic as well. Two super evil dudes threatening to turn the hosts evil provide a defence from the hosts turning evil from another source...
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*runs from yonder, puffing for breath* Yup :D this sounds all really good and funky and how i imagined too, so: SQWEEE!
hehehehe, and i already was well aware of Reah not having any mana, lol! She's got that much crap in her, she's lucky enough that she still has her essence at least :) *skidaddles off back to work*
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Ok, i kinda had a really weird idea, wat happens if this virus turns the good to bad, and the BAD to good? Would anyone care for a good boy Dra'chen running about?
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Wow...now that WOULD be interesting! I'm up for it :D
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The only issue I have with the virus going both ways is that if it's something Delancre wants to employ, having it turn evildoers to good is against his interests. He wants to create chaos and a wider range of allies, not to simply alter the mix of the forces arrayed against him.
Vampires, of course, would still be immune - being dead - but I doubt very much that Delancre would go along with a plan that would result in a demon like Dray'chen suddenly fighting on the side of good and lining up to fight Delancre's troops.
It may be a funky idea to explore, but we must also try to keep such things consistent with what the main Big Bad would wish to engineer, and I don't see Delancre wanting this at all.
(Actually I know Dave wrote something similar a couple of days ago, but for whatever reason it didn't upload to the forum. So I figured I'd better write something instead.